origin of the word hippie
I have been asked the origin (not the meaning) of the word "hippie" Been there but must not have been paying attention
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Then, of course, there's the etymology of the word "disingenuous"...
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There is nothing in Lighter(HDAS) to indicate that either "hip" or "hep" could have originated from "hemp." He does indicate that the first appearance of "hippie" to mean the tie-dyed, pot-smoking,...
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The Philadelphia-based R&B vocal group The Orlons used the line, "Where do all the hippies meet?" in their 1963 hit, "South Street." Maybe the term was still used primarily in the black community...
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This was conventional, not restricted according to race or otherwise, in 1963. "Hippie" meant "one who is hip/hep [i.e., fashionable, 'with it', 'in touch']" -- sometimes used sarcastically back then....
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> from those who went to Dave Brubeck concertsNot entirely sure who this is, but from what friends tell me, he seems to be a strait-laced Jazz almost-was, with a clean-cut nerdly following.How do...
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Your characterization of Brubeck fans could be correct; I'm not terribly knowledgeable about the jazz scene. But I know that at one point he was considered the hot new thing in jazz, and so (I...
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They're talking about this same thing somewhere else around here. Is it in the "Bogart" discussion? Someone said something about hippies enjoying being called "squares" by older-generation hepcats who...
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You obviously are too young to remember Brubeck. His 1959 hit "Take Five" exposed multitudes of white rock 'n rollers to jazz. Enjoying Brubeck was far from nerdly, but very hep. If you still have...
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Yes, Brubeck is definitely one of the jazz greats, not an "almost was." Regarding the opium explanation, it sounds too good to be true. RHHDAS (Lighter) records "on the hip," meaning to smoke opium,...
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Another reason to be dubious of the hemp/hep connection is that "hep" and "hip" go back at least to the first few years of the 20th century, at which time hemp/marijuana was, I think, pretty much...
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I'm a tad sceptical about 'on the hip' meaning 'lying on the hip in a state of drug-induced torpor until one develops bedsores'. But it's not impossible I suppose.My first guess, however, would be...
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Surely "hip" is an alteration or variant of "hep"/"hepped"/"hept". Lighter's HDAS shows three synonyms from ca. 1900: "hepped", "next", "wise" ... as in "[to] get next/wise/hepped ...Read More
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My my my my my...I was about to question the blurring between "hemp" -- as in rope -- and the so-called hemp of *cannabis* fame...when I noticed that it's the same bloody word!! MWO:HEMP: Middle...
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Not only is it the same word, wg, it`s the same thing, as this site makes clear.www.encyclopedia.com/html/h/hemp.aspSpeaking of ropes, do you have the expression `ropey` in the States, meaning of poor...
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ALDINo such expression as "ropey" here in the US.(Unless Geek comes back with a "...well, in Boston, ...")
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Nah, the only meaning I would get out of "ropey" is "resembling rope"...and that would require a pretty strained context: "This yarn is pretty ropey". Sumtin ladat.Back to "hemp", my big problem with...
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"Ropey milk" is a condition where certain bacteria produce strands of stringy slime that float in the milk. In these days of pasteurization, it's not much known outside of dairy science. And a cheap...
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I'm not surre when I first ran across "hepped-up", but I've definitely seen "hopped-up" in writings dating back to the '40s or '50s, at least. I assume there's a correlation?
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Probably not. "Hop", possibly by association with the hop plant that flavors beer, is old (back to late 19th cent.) slang for opium or other narcotics. Thus "hopped-up" just means "high on drugs";...
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